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Re : [Saint Seiya] Saint Seiya Destiny (19/12/2019) Le chapitre est dispo ^^

Je mets quelques images du face à face Kanon/Isaac !


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20 décembre 2019 à 16:11:55
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Re : [Saint Seiya] Saint Seiya Destiny (19/12/2019) Mouais, j'ai put "lire" le premier chapitre de saint seiya Destiny en espagnol sur youtube, et c'est assez décevant ..
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Lien Youtube du chapitre en espagnol :

Enfin bref en attendant je retourne lire Saint Seiya Eol Chapter, moi .  [:fufufu]

24 décembre 2019 à 05:51:58
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[TLC] Chapitres spéciaux (volume relié : 18 juin 2021) Je propose de créer un topic dédié si les modos en sont d'accord.



Je commence avec un résumé détaillé en français  (à partir des scans de mauvaise qualité donc il peut y avoir des coquilles ou des erreurs d'interprétation, je vous présente mes excuses d'avance) :

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22 janvier 2020 à 08:05:07
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Re : Dragon Ball Oui, Frieza, bien sûr, l'univers est vaste, il y a 28 planètes...

Désolé, je pense que je continuerai à troller avec cette idiotie jusqu'à la fin.

03 avril 2020 à 17:45:51
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Re : [TLC] Chapitres spéciaux (Manigoldo vs Dohko : avril 2020) Je vous propose un résumé du chapitre spécial :

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21 avril 2020 à 09:36:21
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Re : Les Seiyars - Palmarès des techniques "déloyales" Bandai qui abandonne la license pour le Meikai alors qu'ils continuent de se remplier les poches avec les Myth Cloth?
10 mai 2020 à 14:27:02
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Re : [Saintia Shô] Volume 15 (chapitres 73 à ??) Quelques images du chapitre !


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Bon je reste persuadé qu’Eris est toujours vivante et qu’elle manipule tout le monde. Je ne vois toujours pas Sagares en boss final ! Trop gros trop gras !

22 mai 2020 à 10:54:00
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Re : Les films Saint Seiya Justement je trouve que voir les Golds aussi aisément se faire exploser est une très bonne chose et établi d'emblée le danger de la menace qui apparaît.

Après le reste du film est mal branlé, mais ça c'est un point pour lequel j'applaudirai toujours Lucifer.

Le fait d'avoir transformé les Golds en perso parfait et imbattable nec plus ultra est le cancer de Saint Seiya.

-Sergorn

22 juin 2020 à 20:33:49
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Re : Re : Les films Saint Seiya
C'est sûr que c'est pas aujourd'hui qu'on verrait un scène de genre de ce genre :))

-Sergorn
Je crois que si l'on assistait à ça aujourd'hui, les scénaristes, chef-animateurs et autres personnes du cast se feraient insulter, menacer de mort… Leurs adresses seraient divulguées sur le net pour que l'on aille leur faire la peau. [:homer1]
Plus sérieusement, même dans Abel et Lucifer, je ne trouve pas, personnellement, que les Golds aient été ridiculisés. Je veux dire que leur défaite est parfaitement justifiée.
Dans Abel, ils se font tuer parce que les gus d'en face sont au minimum aussi forts qu'eux et à trois contre deux.
Dans Lucifer, ils se font one-shot par les 4 anges en même temps. Leurs puissances dépendant fortement du scénario par moment mais, officiellement, elles doivent se situer aux alentours de celles des golds.
Hey je viens de dire qu'il était pas tellement pire que les autres, c'est plutôt sympa non ?


A part la guerre des dieux que j'aime beaucoup et le Tenkai qui est un peu à part, je trouve aussi que Lucifer n'est pas pire que les deux autres. Je vais peut-être déclencher une guerre de 1000 jours et 1000 nuits en disant ça mais il y a clairement match entre Abel et Lucifer ! :D

23 juin 2020 à 16:59:34
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Cloth inédites de Kurumada. The occurrence is known, but as it was received with a lot of skepticism here on the forum, since there're recent findings not everybody may be aware of, I think it deserves its own thread.

In the end of 2014 Mandarake to celebrate the 25th anniversary of SS was selling a lot of goodies,  Cels link, preproduction note for the tv series link, etc.

Notably there was an auction  for 25 sheets of drawings by Masami Kurumada to Toei  & Bandai department.
In this we have the sketches of 3 inedit cloth, never seen in the manga.
Toucan, Pavo and Dorade , with even their objects.

As this constellations appear somehow in tv series too, it’s especially interesting as someone may consider these the pseudo-canonical manga version. LOL

The Bandai pack was made to let them to develop diecast figures in advance.
Here’s the bronze V2 :
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The paper appears different from the kind used for the other sheets.


For the gold saint, both sides of the paper were used, the front for the character, denoted (A) and the back for the object (B).
So this may take a total of 13 sheets, as we have evidences for an extra page for Libra’s weapon.
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The last one is Pisces non Aphrodite.
I mean, you should remember not every gold saint were established at this point.
This guy is actually the muscular tanned pisces saint we usually see in the settei, even in recent databooks, as they really never remade it for Aphro.
I’m glad to finally see he’s got a face and eyes. LOL  [:lol]

Then there’re the sheets of the first movie.
Here’s the front (A) is used for the face of the ghost saint and the notes, while the (B) is used for the  full body in cloth and the object.
Notably in the back we always find a rectangular that suggest they were drawn in papers usually for the storyboard in animation.
The Capricorn cloth before have two perpendicular lines that prompt that was the case too, but it isn’t very clear.

Although not new as seen yet in Jump mag, here are (two) ghost saint cloth in their full glory!


 
The faces’re inedit though. We learn that was Masami who suggested the pairing with the bronze saint.
This is (4)(B) Pegasas Seiya  vs  Sagitta Maya

This is Andromeda Shun  vs  Sorrento

Lyra saint was a different char, originally!  [:chiyo1]

A friend of mine suggested this may have been just an early concept, Masami ‘d have redrawn in a later time.
I think instead Araki was invented the “Mime” appearance.
This might explain why in WSJ were shown only the cloth and object by Kurumada, but the face were from Araki’s settei.

This alpha Lyra looks a lot like Orpheus from Ring ni Kakero (maybe a little more curly hair?).
Not to make it a total copycat, Kuru planned to name this saint Orphée.
Toei dropped the recycled design, but keept the name instead. LOL

Kurumada used this look for his next musician, Sorrento, but when he presented his true Lyra saint in Hades, he had to make it different.. but he mantained the original name Orphée.

People who thought once Kurmada pay omaged to Mime, they weren’t so wrong, after all!!! ROTFL ;)

In the notes the constellation was spelled as “harp”. I can’t read the other handwritten (anybody?)

Looking back at the full body illustration, we realize the saint actually had short and curly hair!
The name of Masami Kurumada appear in that paper, jut under (1)(A). It looks a stamp, in Japan it has the same value as a handwritten signature.
In Scutum cloth we don’t see it, but I guess that page was too full and could be on the other side.
In Capricornus there is.


But it’s present in another sheet.

This is Pavo saint “autographed” by Kurumada.
We ‘d conclude he was the one who conceived, that was later adapted for the anime filler.
Some difference in the helmet, the knee pads…  the peacock’s tail were 4 like manga Phoenix’s and more similar. Araki cut down one, like Phoenix!

To help in the visualisation, the admin of ssnextdimension.com, whom also goes the credit of the discover of these picture in Mandarake website, made a vectorisation of it.
https://youtu.be/uZI8bolh_Ts?t=109

The long hair make me wonder if Agora was suppose to wear this cloth.
The other theory is this cloth was made as a candidate for a ghost saint, rejected, but then recovered when they needed two saint as Shaka’s disciples, because the Pavo was and ideal choice.
Unfortunately we can’t be sure about the dating of this paper.


The Dorado saint isn’t new for the ones who have looked at the page of the auction.
https://ekizo.mandarake.co.jp/auction/item/itemInfoEn.html?index=293596

We can’t see any kurumada stamp. Archange had his concerns about the presence of cursive words.

But you can’t deny the layout of page is consistent with the one of Pavo.
An increase in contrast shows black horizontal bands that are also noticeable in the other paper.

I don’t like the cloth. But as the video above explain, there’re a lot of dettails who were later reprise for Marina’s scale: herringbone armor, the wings like Scylla, …

In this page we found the other steel saint original saint.
https://www.mandarake.co.jp/information/event/2014/nkn_cel_141219/index.html#01_5
It was all the time along in this page of Mandarake, but we all miss it. Thanks again to Grupo Next Dimension, so we can all have a look. 
The winner of the auction never shared them (understandable, but unfortunate).

Very small and clear pict. but the vectorisation helps a lot.
https://youtu.be/uZI8bolh_Ts?t=372

It looks horrible. Sho’s colours scheme definitely doesn’t help here. I’d like to see in monochrome.
I guess there’s a reason this two didn’t make the cut in the anime or manga.. or will we see them some day ???  [:dawa]

24 août 2020 à 19:03:33
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