elle n'a aucune chance de revival.
C'est un peu trop catégorique :o JMS a justement un projet de revival sur les planches.Je voudrais bien, note, mais je ne pense pas que ce soit possible sans la dénaturer pour plaire à un public suffisamment nombreux. Et si c'est pour qu'on en fasse autre chose, je préfère en rester à la merveille que j'ai vue, même si les budgets étaient ridicules, et les effets visuels vraiment mauvais.
Je voudrais bien, note, mais je ne pense pas que ce soit possible sans la dénaturer pour plaire à un public suffisamment nombreux. Et si c'est pour qu'on en fasse autre chose, je préfère en rester à la merveille que j'ai vue, même si les budgets étaient ridicules, et les effets visuels vraiment mauvais.babylon 5?
There are things in the Universe billions of years older than either of our races. They are vast, timeless, and if they are aware of us at all, it is as little more than ants and we have as much chance of communicating with them as an ant has with us. We know. We've tried and we've learned that we can either stay out from underfoot or be stepped on. They are a mystery and I am both terrified and reassured to know that there are still wonders in the Universe, that we have not explained everything
G'Kar - Mind War
The avalanche has started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Kosh - Believers
"Earth doesn't have homeless. We don't have the problem. Well, yes, there are some displaced people, here and there, but they've chosen to be in their position. They're either lazy or they're criminal or they're mentally unstable."
"They can't get a job."
"Earth-gov has promised a job to everyone that wants one. So, if someone doesn't have a job, they must not want one."
Juli Musante & Sheridan - Voices of Authority
Michael Garibaldi: I'm an eye-for-an-eye, tooth-for-a-tooth kind of guy.Evidemment, la chute est un miroir, puisqu'on est toujours le "méchant" de quelqu'un.
Delenn: So you support a system that would leave everyone blind and toothless.
Michael Garibaldi: Not everyone. Just the bad guys.
Ca y est j'ai fini : à l'exception de quelques épisodes un peu en deça (en particulier au début de la saison 5), j'ai adoré de bout en bout. L'une des grandes forces de la série est sa capacité à annoncer des évènements qui doivent se produire des années après, et nous sommes condamnés à voir la mécanique du destin se mettre en place alors qu'on sait très bien comment ça va se finir.Très bien résumé :)
De la grande tragédie.
Voici donc la plus grande œuvre jamais réalisée, et pas de topic? réparons vite cette injustice. [:pfft]
La meilleure série de tous les temps.
Inégalée sans aucun doute. Meilleure série de tous les temps sans aucun doute aussi. [:jap]Là, vous suscitez vraiment ma curiosité ! [:jap] Je n'ai que d'excellents retours au sujet de cette série. Elle fait partie de ma longue liste d'oeuvre à regarder mais va sûrement passer avant d'autres en raison de ces éloges. :D
s'il y a moyen d'avoir cette version remastérisée...
Là, vous suscitez vraiment ma curiosité ! [:jap] Je n'ai que d'excellents retours au sujet de cette série. Elle fait partie de ma longue liste d'oeuvre à regarder mais va sûrement passer avant d'autres en raison de ces éloges. :DIl est clair que les effets spéciaux sont très datés, mais si tu cherches une série super bien écrite sur toute sa durée et de nombreux personnages tous très bien gérés, cette série saura te rendre heureux :)
Il est clair que les effets spéciaux sont très datés, mais si tu cherches une série super bien écrite sur toute sa durée et de nombreux personnages tous très bien gérés, cette série saura te rendre heureux :)Super ! [:dawa] C'est exactement ce que je recherche. [:jap] Quant aux effets spéciaux datés, cela ne me dérangera pas du tout.
To answer all the questions, yes, it’s true, Babylon 5 is now in active development as a series for the CW. We have some serious fans over at the network, and they’re eager to see this show happen. I’m hip deep into writing the pilot now, and will be running the series upon pickup. The network understands the uniqueness of Babylon 5 and is giving me a great deal of latitude with the storytelling.
As noted in the announcement, this is a reboot from the ground up rather than a continuation, for several reasons. Heraclitus wrote, “You cannot step in the same river twice, for the river has changed, and you have changed.” In the years since B5, I’ve done a ton of other TV shows and movies, adding an equal number of tools to my toolbox, all of which I can bring to bear on the question: if I were creating Babylon 5 today, for the first time, knowing what I now know as a writer, what would it look like? How would it use all the storytelling tools and technological resources available in 2021 that were not on hand then? How can it be used to reflect the world in which we live, and the questions we are asking and confronting every day? Fans regularly point out how prescient the show was and is of our current world; it would be fun to take a shot at looking further down the road.
So we will not be retelling the same story in the same way because of what Heraclitus said about the river. There would be no fun and no surprises. Better to go the way of Westworld or Battlestar Galactica where you take the original elements that are evergreens and put them in a blender with a ton of new, challenging ideas, to create something both fresh and familiar.
To those who have asked why we’re not just doing a continuation…for a network series like this, it can’t be done because over half our cast are still stubbornly on the other side of the Rim. How do you telling continuing story of our original Londo without the original Vir? Or G’Kar? How do you tell Sheridan’s story without Delenn? Or the story of B5 without Franklin? Garibaldi? Zack?
The original Babylon 5 was ridiculously innovative: the first to use CGI to create ships and characters, and among the very first to shoot widescreen with a vigorous 5.1 mix. Most of all, for the first time, Babylon 5 introduced viewers accustomed to episodic television to the concept of a five-year arc with a pre-planned beginning, middle and end…creating a brand new paradigm for television storytelling that has subsequently become the norm. That tradition for innovation will continue in this new iteration, and I hope to create additional new forms of storytelling that will further push the television medium to the edge of what’s possible.
Let me conclude by just saying how supportive and enthusiastic everyone at the CW has been and is being with this project. They understand the unique position Babylon 5 occupies both in television and with its legions of fans, and are doing everything they can to ensure the maximum in creative freedom, a new story that will bring in new viewers while honoring all that has come before.
A noter que comme l'info est sortie involontairement : il y a un autre projet Babylon 5 actuellement en production mais que JMS n'a pas encore eu l'autorisation d'annoncer officiellement. Mais on ne sait pas encore de quoi il s'agit en dehors du fait qu'au contraire du reboot c'est orienté vieux fans. [:fufufu]En production.
(D'ailleurs ça me fait penser que dans mon post évoquant tous les projets annulés (http://forum.saintseiyapedia.com/index.php/topic,3904.msg591316.html#msg591316)j'en ai oublié un : Polaris, projet développé entre LOTR et TMOS pour Sci-Fi Channel et qui devait être une série dans l'univers de Babylon 5 mais sans lien direct centré autour d'une famille du crime... mais qui fut rejeté par la chaîne car jugé "trop SF". Ca s'invente pas [:aie])[:tsss] [:facepalm]
Feel free to quote this anyplace the “oh, the show is dead” nonsense sprouts up.
Whenever there’s news in the TV/film business – good, bad or indifferent – there are always those who, for their own pleasure, throw dust in the faces of fans in the hope of eliciting tears. The history of B5 is rife with them. Every season they would cite sources who said the show was definitely not going to be renewed, only to be proven wrong, which never stopped them from doing the same exact thing the next season, and the next, to try and upset people.
These stories are then repeated through ignorance, arrogance, spitefulness, foolishness, clickbaitery, or the desire to appear tuned-in to an industry which they were never a part of in the first place, or to which they are no longer relevant. (Or any combination thereof.) So let me put the lie to this latest one in terms that are clear, verifiable, and unambiguous.
1) Every year, dozens and dozens of network pilots are picked up for production, or turned down. Telling those on either side of that equation where they’ve landed is not considered a big deal, it’s part of the everyday process of making TV. If the B5 pilot were dead, the network would not hesitate to say so because they’d have no reason to do so. They gain nothing by obscuring the truth. But the president of the CW network called personally (followed by a second call from his top executives) to say that they loved the script, that it was most emphatically not dead, and that they were going to roll the script into their development slate for 2023. And in the days since those calls there have been more discussions with the network and studio about how best to ensure B5’s future.
2) In the nearly 35 years that I’ve been online, and the nearly 30 years of B5 history, I have never once prevaricated or soft-pedaled the facts related to any aspect of Babylon 5. The one and only time I withheld information was in regard to Michael O’Hare’s struggle with mental illness because it wasn’t my story to tell at that time, and while he was still with us it was none of anybody else’s goddamn business. In every other instance, I have been blunt and honest and straightforward with the fans through good times and bad. Don’t take my word for it, ask those who’ve been around for those 30 years. There is nothing to be gained by saying the show’s still in development if it isn’t, and much to lose, since doing so would agitate both the network and the studio and I would hear from legal affairs within an hour of making such a statement.
3) When in doubt, always go with enlightened self-interest. In the event the pilot were not to be picked up, my contract gives me the legal right to immediately turn around and shop the pilot script elsewhere. If the CW had simply said we’re not doing it, end of conversation, I would be shouting from the metaphorical rooftops and knocking on every literal door to take it elsewhere, and the fans would know about it because their help in making that effort visible would be essential to the process. (And there are several networks who are very much aware of B5 and the fan base and how well it’s done on HBO Max who would be extremely interested in that prospect.) Saying that I and the pilot are sticking with the CW precludes the script from being taken elsewhere, so you can be damned sure I wouldn’t say it if it wasn’t true.
It’s unfortunate that after all these years I still have to come online to do this sort of thing, but I suppose that, too, is just a part of the process.
Onward.
“It is very much in active development, I personally spoke with Straczynski back when we picked up the pilot,” Pedowitz said during the network’s pre-upfront press call. “I’m a huge fan of Babylon 5, on a personal basis, I’ve seen every episode of the series. I’ve known Joe for a long, long time. I’d love to bring back that story in some shape or form, I think it’s perfect for the CW.”[/i]
Je ne suis pas assez calé sur B5 mais quel intérêt d'avoir un reboot(même avec des différences) pour une série aussi excellente?Je suis un grand fan de la série, mais les effets spéciaux et les interprétations de certains acteurs ont quand même pris un méchant coup de vieux.